Comments on: Art Wrap – Not Exactly “All Figured Out” http://nycjunta.com/2010/05/02/art-wrap-not-exactly-all-figured-out/ Strong opinions, strong drink Sat, 03 Dec 2011 22:24:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: NYC Junta » Can You Make It Here? http://nycjunta.com/2010/05/02/art-wrap-not-exactly-all-figured-out/comment-page-1/#comment-411 NYC Junta » Can You Make It Here? Tue, 11 May 2010 11:06:31 +0000 http://nycjunta.com/?p=451#comment-411 [...] comment on our modern art wrap-up got me thinking about the city. Patti Smith said young artists should [...] [...] comment on our modern art wrap-up got me thinking about the city. Patti Smith said young artists should [...]

]]> By: Sam Kim http://nycjunta.com/2010/05/02/art-wrap-not-exactly-all-figured-out/comment-page-1/#comment-410 Sam Kim Tue, 04 May 2010 20:54:18 +0000 http://nycjunta.com/?p=451#comment-410 Thought this was interesting. Just see the responses. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/03/patti-smith-to-artists-do_n_560794.html Thought this was interesting. Just see the responses.

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]]> By: John J. McGurk http://nycjunta.com/2010/05/02/art-wrap-not-exactly-all-figured-out/comment-page-1/#comment-409 John J. McGurk Tue, 04 May 2010 01:05:51 +0000 http://nycjunta.com/?p=451#comment-409 I really enjoyed the evening as well. Great group, I intend to come to future Junta events. Glad that everyone enjoyed the discussion. There are so many things to follow up on... I think the thought expressed about taste and its various makers is very relevant. What becomes valued and what doesn't? Does luck have a role? Do you have to be in the right place at the right time? Is skill the only part of the equation? In the end, I think it is important to focus on the expansion of the role of the artist in the last hundred years. Duchamp played a role in this evolution by maintaining that almost anything could be considered art. Joseph Beuys and Agnes Martin are remembered for taking art into the shamanistic and visionary. Jeff Koons and Murakami have taken art into a fully commercialized celebrity art star phenomenon. Hate it or love it, it is the history of art. I am happy to see where it takes us. In the end, I believe it is most important to live ones life as it is a work of art, then you are an artist and you are making art. It is more a frame of mind. And yes, it is utopian. I really enjoyed the evening as well. Great group, I intend to come to future Junta events. Glad that everyone enjoyed the discussion.

There are so many things to follow up on… I think the thought expressed about taste and its various makers is very relevant. What becomes valued and what doesn’t? Does luck have a role? Do you have to be in the right place at the right time? Is skill the only part of the equation?

In the end, I think it is important to focus on the expansion of the role of the artist in the last hundred years. Duchamp played a role in this evolution by maintaining that almost anything could be considered art. Joseph Beuys and Agnes Martin are remembered for taking art into the shamanistic and visionary. Jeff Koons and Murakami have taken art into a fully commercialized celebrity art star phenomenon. Hate it or love it, it is the history of art. I am happy to see where it takes us.

In the end, I believe it is most important to live ones life as it is a work of art, then you are an artist and you are making art. It is more a frame of mind. And yes, it is utopian.

]]> By: Jeremy Hurewitz http://nycjunta.com/2010/05/02/art-wrap-not-exactly-all-figured-out/comment-page-1/#comment-407 Jeremy Hurewitz Mon, 03 May 2010 19:00:11 +0000 http://nycjunta.com/?p=451#comment-407 A great evening nicely summarized. This was really what Rindy and I had in mind in Shanghai years ago when the Junta was conceived, both in terms of subject matter, vibe and quality people together. John really was a great host and after the talk walked us through some of the excellent art he was exhibiting in his apartment and selling through his Elwa Productions. So many gems really from that evening, but for me the most relevant was how artists (and by that I mean broadly people who are doing just about anything artistic, not just painters, and are serious enough about it that they don't consider it a hobby, but rather a vital part of themselves and how they live) can live, make art, and be viable economically and true to themselves, another subject that could be debated all night, but one which I found really interesting to talk about. Also, building off of Sam's comment, I thought what he said about moving towards abstraction once he allowed more free reign to his emotions to be one of the more trenchant remarks on the evening. A great evening nicely summarized. This was really what Rindy and I had in mind in Shanghai years ago when the Junta was conceived, both in terms of subject matter, vibe and quality people together. John really was a great host and after the talk walked us through some of the excellent art he was exhibiting in his apartment and selling through his Elwa Productions.

So many gems really from that evening, but for me the most relevant was how artists (and by that I mean broadly people who are doing just about anything artistic, not just painters, and are serious enough about it that they don’t consider it a hobby, but rather a vital part of themselves and how they live) can live, make art, and be viable economically and true to themselves, another subject that could be debated all night, but one which I found really interesting to talk about. Also, building off of Sam’s comment, I thought what he said about moving towards abstraction once he allowed more free reign to his emotions to be one of the more trenchant remarks on the evening.

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